P. How do you think your present illness will result? V. [After a long hesitation and speaking as if with effort.] I must die. P. Does the idea of death afflict you? V. [Very quickly.] No—no! P. Are you pleased with the prospect? V. If I were awake I should like to die, but now it is no matter. The mesmeric condition is so near death as to content me. P. I wish you would explain yourself, Mr. Vankirk. V. I am willing to do so, but it requires more effort than I feel able to make. You do not question me properly. P. What then shall I ask? V. You must begin at the beginning. P. The beginning! But where is the beginning? V. You know that the beginning is GOD. [This was said in a low, fluctuating tone, and with every sign of the most profound veneration.] P. What then, is God? V. [Hesitating for many minutes.] I cannot tell. P. Is not God spirit? V. While I was awake I knew what you meant by “spirit,” but now it seems only a word—such, for instance, as truth, beauty—a quality, I mean. P. Is not God immaterial? V. There is no immateriality—it is a mere word. That which is not matter, is not at all—unless qualities are things. P. Is God, then, material? V. No. [This reply startled me very much.]